4 Hidden Ways Model Y Improves on Model 3, and 4 Ways It Doesn’t

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Ryan Shaw

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The Model Y is out and we’re finding out many slight, but important improvements that it has over the Model 3. At the same time however, we’re also noticing some features clearly missing in the Model Y.
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Here are 4 things that the Model Y improves on the Model 3, and 4 things it is missing.
#1: Heat Pump
Heat Pumps are considered to be 100% efficient because they output the same heat compared to energy usage, and Tesla added a heat pump to Model Y. In the Model 3, and all other Tesla’s for that matter, resistance heating has been used, and when used extensively, we can see drastic drops in real world range in cold temperatures. In reply to a Teslarati article about the Model Y heat pump, Elon Musk said on twitter:
“Model Y heat pump is some of the best engineering I’ve seen in a while. Team did next-level-work”.
delivering the Model Y for about 15 days, but I’m sure we’ll see some soon.
#2: Radar Heater
A big issue that is a frequent argument against full self driving is that snow or ice could obstruct sensors. Tesla added a Model Y Radar Heater to the front radar sensor as well on the Model Y, since this would often get obstructed in the Model 3.
#3: Side Pillar Camera Glare
The 3rd hidden improvement on the Model Y also has to do with the autopilot system, and this is specific to the side pillar cameras.
In the Model 3, the side cameras have a large opening around the lens, and Model 3 owners had an issue with glare on the camera lens.
Well, in the Model Y Autopilot system, this side camera opening has gotten much smaller, so this should improve that issue.
#4: USB-C
In the Model 3, the front console included 2 USB A ports, and the rear of that console included another 2 USB A ports.
Now, in the Model Y you’ll notice that the front console has one USB A-port and one USB-C port, while the rear of that console has 2 USB-C ports.
So what is worse in the Model Y vs Model 3?
Of course, since the Model Y is larger, the range is lower, the speed is slower, and the 0-60 takes longer, but let’s get into a few things you might not have realized.
#1: No Auto Dimming Mirrors.
In the Model 3, the side mirrors would auto-dim when lights were too bright behind you, and that feature is gone in the Model Y. The Model Y auto dimming mirrors are non-existant. No real indication of why they disappeared.
#2: No Model Y Homelink.
Homelink used to be included in the Model 3 premium interior, and it will automatically control garage doors in particular, as well as gates, lights, and security systems. It has since been removed in the Model 3, and has also been removed on the Model Y.
If you want to get Model Y homelink, you can purchase the retrofit for $300. There is an actual piece of hardware that they install, as well as software and then you’re good to go.
#3 No Track Mode.
On the Model 3 Performance, track mode is a software feature that allows drivers to
“customize its handling, providing even more control over how their car behaves on track”. You can adjust things like Handling balance, stability assistance, and regen braking, as it monitors and records lots of data for you to view in real time.
Well, even though the Model Y performance is close in performance, there is no Model Y track mode.
Luckily, track mode is a software feature, so it is something that Tesla could add in a future software update in the Model Y for Performance owners.
#4 No Pedestrian Warning System.
In the Model 3, starting in September of last year, Tesla began adding the Pedestrian Warning system for all cars in the US.
According to Tesla:
“The Pedestrian Warning System is an audible tone played when the vehicle is moving slowly (up to 19 mph) in either Drive or Reverse. The sound I splayed via a speaker mounted in front fascia and alerts nearby pedestrians of the car’s presence in low-speed situations”.
Oddly enough the Model Y Pedestrian Warning System, or Model Y noisemaker is non-existant.

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Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 6 oy oldin
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Hassan Janjua
Hassan Janjua Oy oldin
Which light you use?
Monroe
Monroe Oy oldin
Can you customize the pedestrian warning? Rick & Morty Snake Jazz or 'Move B, get out the way' ?
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw Oy oldin
That’s something they said they were going to do, but haven’t. Would love to see it!
Thomas Jacques
Thomas Jacques 4 oy oldin
Any reason why the 3/Y can't be had with heated steering wheel? It seems like that could be part of an optional Sub-Zero option.
Thomas Jacques
Thomas Jacques 4 oy oldin
Ryan Shaw then how do they heat the seats?
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 4 oy oldin
Apparently it’s because their “vegan leather” can’t handle heat
Gard-Agario
Gard-Agario 4 oy oldin
Model 3 won't have auto dimming either if you would buy one today
D B
D B 5 oy oldin
The biggest disappointment for me is the the Performance Model is the slowest Performance Model they make. It should have been faster than the M3P.
D B
D B 5 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw Being that the S is their flagship sports sedan and X and Y are their SUVs, so no. There is no reason why the Y couldn't be closer X fast.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 5 oy oldin
D B I think it’s impossible to have a higher car be cheaper though. Does it also bother you that the Model X is slower than the Model S? And more expensive?
D B
D B 5 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw It doesn't matter if its built off the 3...When someone buys a more expensive car in their "Performance" line-up family, they shouldn't get dinged on the actual "performance". Tesla is just really bad at price-points between their models. Similar to how the screwed over their M3P owners by allowing Long Range owner to buy a $2000 performance software upgrade that essentially lowered the M3P value.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 5 oy oldin
@D B Yeah, that is true, but it is built off of the 3. Almost exactly the same driving mechanics, and for the price point I think it makes sense that it would be slower since it is bigger.
D B
D B 5 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw The S and X are both larger than the Y and they are faster.
Thomas Nguyen
Thomas Nguyen 5 oy oldin
Dropping auto dimming side mirror? Something that exist on the lower priced model 3 AND many people find useful. Definitely cost cutting. Disappointing for a $53,000 car.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 5 oy oldin
Yeah it seems like the smallest possible cost lowering though. Weird one to drop
Everest Ezebuilo
Everest Ezebuilo 6 oy oldin
Ryan, what about 360 camera and foot-activated lift gate?
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 6 oy oldin
Well it doesn’t have either.
Marie Nguyen
Marie Nguyen 6 oy oldin
I would miss the auto dimming of side mirrors as I like it on my model3. Would prefer to have the pedestrian warning system. Wonder if possible with SOftware update.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 6 oy oldin
The mirrors aren’t, but the pedestrian warning system seems like it might be in there, just not active
DFWald
DFWald 6 oy oldin
Another thing Model Y doesn't have yet that Model 3 has is working dual temperatures for front passengers. It allows you to take it out of Sync mode showing two temps but when you change them to one cold and other hot, the air coming out on both sides is the same temp. All reviews online have shown this failure so far. Sounds like perhaps a software update is needed but this kind of feature not working is totally inexcusable for this price range.
DFWald
DFWald 6 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw My wife would be very upset if that feature didn't work on a new car we purchased. Inexcusable to have to wait for a software update when it was easily working on Model 3.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 6 oy oldin
Yeah I tested that and noticed the same. I think it’s just a software bug because it’s listed on the official sale certificate as a feature
James Stroud
James Stroud 6 oy oldin
Great video. I learned a thing or two even though I follow this stuff closely. Thanks again
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 6 oy oldin
Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful
Wooly Chewbakker
Wooly Chewbakker 6 oy oldin
When are Tesla going to upgrade all the appalling low grade cheap trashy interiors they are putting in existing tmY vehicles. They are ckearly still using pre-production materials and same poor fitting. surely they will upgrade existing customers soon?
Juston Preble
Juston Preble 6 oy oldin
Home Link is so useful. $300 is reasonable for the upgrade but I’d rather pay for it at the time of purchase already installed rather than adding it after.
Ken Wallace
Ken Wallace 6 oy oldin
The problem I have with the driver post camera is condensation, not glare.
dominic tripper
dominic tripper 6 oy oldin
rear wiper . ... heated steering wheel . double glazed roof... front passenger seat backrest folding flat as a table plus long loading/sleeping area....
Foersom
Foersom 6 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw You missed the biggest limitation of the Model Y. Max payload of only 402 kg. That is very low for a CUV especially a one this large. The average US adult weigh 80.5 kg. So 5 people if they travel naked and bring no luggage, or just 4 people with some luggage.
Shivam
Shivam 6 oy oldin
I'm assuming that the hardware for the pedestrian warning is still in the car. My friend has a 3 and he just needed a software update to enable his
Frog Rooster
Frog Rooster 6 oy oldin
How many model Y SUV owners are going to race around a track ? You didn't mention it has offroad mode instead ! Oh and resistance heaters are 100% efficient and heat pumps around 300% efficient !
Sudeepta Ghosh
Sudeepta Ghosh 6 oy oldin
Can we retrofit M3 auto dimming mirrors in MY?
JAMFUTUBE
JAMFUTUBE 5 oy oldin
I hope you can swap the mirrors, because it'd be nice to have the slightly smaller M3 mirrors too.
Maikal _
Maikal _ 6 oy oldin
9:54 - security risk? Safety risk?
Mark Olaf Slot
Mark Olaf Slot 6 oy oldin
No tow hitch.
Mark Olaf Slot
Mark Olaf Slot 6 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw Model 3 comes with optional tow hitch (except for the Performance model) - at least in Europe. Furthermore, I heard that Model Y does not come with a tow hitch at all (as of today). And at first sight, the construction does not allow for a tow hitch to be attached to the frame. Maybe (hopefully) Tesla will change that and offer a tow hitch as an option later.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 6 oy oldin
Nope, not on Model Y either (except in europe)
Jeff
Jeff 7 oy oldin
After reviewing Tesla's heat pump patent...this is a very substantial piece of engineering. Think of the heat pump itself like the circulatory heart of the system that can move energy as need from and between different systems as needed. The temperature control systems include: Heat pump/compressor Cabin condenser Cabin evaporator Battery system Drivetrain/motor oil Drive inverter Computer control electronics Radiator The patent breaks this down into more detail but those are the major systems capable of being temperature controlled. There is also a low voltage electric cabin heater that could be used as needed for extreme cold or when no initial energy is available. The system can pull energy from an amazing amount of systems and distribute as needed very efficiently. Looks like battery heating/temp control as well as cabin temp control is called out. Again, this is very advanced engineering that has totally been designed/optimized for electric vehicles. Not much similarity to residential heat pump systems.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 6 oy oldin
Thanks for the detail! That sounds great
Matthew Boyd
Matthew Boyd 7 oy oldin
I can't wait until my car can make coconut sounds to let people know MIND THE HORSE AND CARRIAGE I bet it sounds like the Jetsons car when you mash the accelerator.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 6 oy oldin
Hahaha exactly
Carlos Garcia
Carlos Garcia 7 oy oldin
I noticed that my Model Y also doesnt support ExFAT partitions for the teslacam usb drive. When I checked my software version, it shows 2020.5. ExFAT support was introduced on 2020.8 on Model 3s. It looks like Tesla has not yet released version 2020.8 for the Y. I believe track mode was also introduced on 2020.8.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 6 oy oldin
Interesting to note. I'll see if I find that issue with the drive
Selvyn Giron
Selvyn Giron 7 oy oldin
Hi Ryan I live in southern California and ordered a RWD LR, I am positive they won't make it, do you think should change my order so I can actually get it. Thank you
Hyperdrive E
Hyperdrive E 7 oy oldin
What about the wiring? Elon talked about how state of the art it is and how many less miles of wire it will use compared to the 3. Why is nobody talking about this? Did it not happen?
mark marcinik
mark marcinik 7 oy oldin
You use the word Efficiency incorrectly. Efficiency is not the same as energy use. Electric heating is 100 Percent efficient .
Rich Teer
Rich Teer 7 oy oldin
Hmm, auto-dimming mirrors (preferably outside as well as inside) should be considered a “must-have” in a premium car like a Tesla!
RJ 8U
RJ 8U 7 oy oldin
Just a correction the model Y does have a pedestrians warning system/speakers installed, but not yet turned on as the model 3 👍. Would have nice to see the model Y to have auto self cleaning cameras for the side and rear, air suspensions, Tesla armored glass in the front windshield 😜.
Yann Roger
Yann Roger 7 oy oldin
There is another thing which is not an improvement. The trunk door is a part of the rear bumper.
H T
H T 7 oy oldin
I guess that means some expensive repair down the road.
kbm blizz
kbm blizz 7 oy oldin
Heat pump - small subset of owners benefit from a "normal" HP. Leafs, Prius' had already gone there, out of necessity, due to inadequate range. Tesla was not going to copy their HP. Expect to see major breakthru's, superior engineering when Monroe and co deep dive it.
Yann Roger
Yann Roger 7 oy oldin
Having a heat pump doesn't exclude a resistance to heat when the pump can't. Are you sure that the car do not use a resistance for when the pump is not ready yet or when it's to cold outside? If it does, so of course it's gonna be fast to heat. I'm sure it has a resistance too because if the temperature is too low it wouldn't be enough with just the pump.
Yann Roger
Yann Roger 7 oy oldin
@Nico Nico and also a car is not exactly as a home. It has less insulation, is so much more exposed to the cold with the speed and only takes the cooler air from outside to heat, so it really needs to heat very well. Now we need a real test to see how much is it going to save, for different temperature, and maybe also different sessions, short (when the car get cold each time, like for work comute) and long trip. It's going to help for sure, for cool air but it's maybe not that crazy in the cold, especially when the car needs to heat the battery too.
Nico Nico
Nico Nico 7 oy oldin
In the elon tweet he showed, he said there was résistance heating for starting the heat. And also when its too cold, its more efficient to use resistive heat.
Scott Gibson
Scott Gibson 7 oy oldin
Your heat pump information is almost all wrong, dude. You need to do more research. I know you’re in growth mode and trying to pump out content to keep subscribers coming, but research is important.
Nirav Patel
Nirav Patel 7 oy oldin
All other I don’t care except Open garage. It should be standard.
KL M
KL M 7 oy oldin
Does it have arm support in the back? None of the other models have it which is absolutely nuts!
Nigel Weir
Nigel Weir 7 oy oldin
FSD is fantasy , should be called occasionally self driving when weather and circumstances suit. Also as with all AI at present it’s so dumb when it comes to unusual situations
Harsimran Bansal
Harsimran Bansal 7 oy oldin
Hey Ryan, I like your videos but I’ve found that after around 5 minutes it starts to get really boring, I don’t really know how exactly you can fix this, but just thought you should know to improve your future videos!
John Parsons
John Parsons 7 oy oldin
I just bought a model 3 just in time for all my gigs (I'm a musician) get cancelled. I'm thinking you're in the same boat.
Tech Forum
Tech Forum 7 oy oldin
Thanks for the video
Shawn Christopher
Shawn Christopher 7 oy oldin
I'm sure the Tesla team looked at analytics and determined features to cut before building the Model Y. No real losses here.
Tony Parisio
Tony Parisio 7 oy oldin
p + 1
SM 3000
SM 3000 7 oy oldin
All cars already com with a pedestrian warning system, it's called a horn.
Andrew Jamison
Andrew Jamison 7 oy oldin
Also there is a place for the pedestrian warning system and the connector in the Model Y already so it can be installed after delivery without much effort. my theory is these speakers were constrained on the supply chain and they likely plan to add them after the fact possibly free just my opinion though.
Jenny Behnu
Jenny Behnu 7 oy oldin
Have there been any model y deliveries with the white interior?
Nelson Aerial Productions
Nelson Aerial Productions 7 oy oldin
Jenny Behnu yes
J G
J G 7 oy oldin
Seems to me Tesla is missing some basic features at their price point. Cooled seats (for those in desert climates). AM radio SiriusXM (satellite, not cellular based). HomeLink 360 deg backup / parking camera My 2015 Jeep has all these features except the 360 camera and my 2017 Hyundai has ALL these features at a much lower cost.
Mark Brand
Mark Brand 7 oy oldin
They're prob leaving track mode on the 3 for a few years to prevent cannibalization. And then charge model y buyer for track mode later.
Art Ambrose
Art Ambrose 7 oy oldin
Any idea if they've exhausted the supply of Ys they made before Fremont shut down? I of course cannot get an answer from the few Tesla employees I know here in socal. If they've allocated them all, then I have a long wait ahead. If they still have some to deliver, I may have a chance on this "batch". Thx.
R
R 7 oy oldin
What's the big deal about having a little remote in your car to open a garage door? I wouldn't pay $300 for that convenience. Though it is true hardly anyone bothers to use their garage in the Uk.
Lawrence Novak
Lawrence Novak 7 oy oldin
It is more than ‘having a little remote in your car”. The home link is connected to the main computer such that the car can automatically open the garage door. I.e.: when I arrive home, the car knows I am near home and opens the garage without any input from the driver. Currently with the M3, when ‘summon’ is activated, if car is in the garage and the car’s sensors detect the garage door is closed, the computer activates the garage door opener on it’s own to open the door to be able to drive out of the garage on it’s own. I.e.: it gives the car more autonomous features which will be useful with full driving without driver present.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
It's a big deal for most people...not to me..shhh
Prodyut Guha
Prodyut Guha 7 oy oldin
The Out-going Model 3 too doesn't have Auto dimming.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah I just heard that. Very interesting that they dropped it there too
Phillip Probst
Phillip Probst 7 oy oldin
The model Y glass roof is not “bigger” ... it’s just reconfigured. The structural crossmember is relocated due to the switch from trunk to hatchback. That’s all.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Technically sure, But the view is bigger. There's more visible glass from inside.
Sami A
Sami A 7 oy oldin
Does the rear view mirror have auto dimming?
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah. Just the sides don’t
scharkalvin
scharkalvin 7 oy oldin
I guess you finally got yours?
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Coming tomorrow!
Daniel Filippus
Daniel Filippus 7 oy oldin
What are we supposed to do with usb-c ports in the rear? I've never seen a usb-c > usb-c cable?
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
You haven’t? They definitely exist
kkallioj
kkallioj 7 oy oldin
Sadly the mirror dimming has nothing to do with following cars blasting their lights. They just go dark in the evening no matter what, which under streetlights is useless if not even harmful. It's a poorly designed feature that could be useful, but usually is not.
C R
C R 7 oy oldin
Actually they do dim when too bright of a light from a car following is detected. Back in the day the rearview mirrors had a lever you had to manually switch when someone was behind you with lights so bright it made it hard for the driver to see. Auto dimming simply removes the driver having to manually make that adjustment.
null090909
null090909 7 oy oldin
In France, Pedestrian Warning System has been a legal requirement for years. Tesla will add it before they deliver vehicles to this market.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Absolutely
null090909
null090909 7 oy oldin
Tesla Y is designed for Norway.
Chobaca
Chobaca 7 oy oldin
Yeah you're going to have to do reupload on this one.
MAGA
MAGA 7 oy oldin
resistance heating is 100% efficient heat pumps are up to 300% efficient
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
You're right. I'll be clearer about the specifics in the future
Casper Hansen
Casper Hansen 7 oy oldin
I think it is only a few percent that will be using the Homelink feature, personally I wont miss it, and the pedestrian warning system I would rather be without.
T1Oracle
T1Oracle 7 oy oldin
I disagree, most Tesla owners garage park their cars. I do and Homelink is what opens my garage. I don't understand why Tesla would leave that out. Having my 3 auto open my garage is one of my favorite features. I suppose that will have to become a cellphone feature for Y owners. They'll need to get a smart garage opener first though and it probably won't work as well.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah those don’t matter too much to me. Auto dimming side mirrors will be missed
Muhammad Zafar
Muhammad Zafar 7 oy oldin
10:18 “So they can hear you coming in your car” *ba dum tssss* I couldn’t resist 💀
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Hahha
Tom Welfringer
Tom Welfringer 7 oy oldin
9:56 TeslaRaj checked, there seems to be the speaker for PWS in the front underbody. Maybe it will be activated in an OTA update. Because in th EU it is already mandatory to have PWS
Tom Welfringer
Tom Welfringer 7 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw from his video one couldn't tell. You only see the holes beneath the car. He didn't/couldn't check if there really is a speaker behind them
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Interesting. Well they’re only delivering in the US right now, so maybe they are missing a piece of it?
CSquared092
CSquared092 7 oy oldin
Not having a PWS is a pro not a con. We don’t buy electric cars to have sound coming from it. It’s your own damn fault if you’re too stupid to get hit by car when you have to your headphones in.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
The biggest counter arguments I see are for blind people crossing a street, or for kids
biachboy
biachboy 7 oy oldin
I hope the competition will get their shit together soon and release a car comparable to the y in terms of range and performance. I just can't stand the Tesla interior and missing basics other cars have since decades. No heated steering wheel, this touchscreen only controls. I like the Tesla drivetrain but that's not enough to make me ditch my current ICE car.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
biachboy haha alright, fair enough :) I’m excited to see other manufacturers compete on EV’s
biachboy
biachboy 7 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw yes, was very annoyed by the phantom brakes and the lackmof reading speed signs. There should be a option to have a classic cruise control mode and I'm missing the dedicated cruise control stock like the model s/x have. And also the instrument cluster behind the steering wheel. Actually I just want my current car with a Tesla drivetrain. This would be just heaven :-)
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Makes sense. Have you used autopilot? If the Tesla didn’t have autopilot, I would agree for the most part, but autopilot and FSD, along with the overall tech of the car make up the quality issues for me
Douglas Brown
Douglas Brown 7 oy oldin
Thanks for the video. Lots of good info. But you didnt mention that MY mirrors are shaped differently from M3. MY mirrors are taller but narrower. So,I suspect this make it harder to see cars in your blind spot. did you find this to b e true? and of course the view out the back with the inside mirror is smaller than for M3. So, overall, the mirrors simply arent as useful as M3.
Douglas Brown
Douglas Brown 7 oy oldin
@Wick Smith I havent heard that, and in looking at the mirrors in pictures they seem the same. but cant be sure.
Douglas Brown
Douglas Brown 7 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw thanks for your prompt reply. Yea, some other youtube reviewer pointed that out, but didnt say how they seemed to work when actually driving. And then when i checked the official dimensions of M3 and MY (using the total width with mirrors and total width without) i get mirrors width of 9.4 inches for M3 and 8.2. for MY, for a reduced mirror width in MY of 1.2 inches. Anyway, glad you liked them better. Do you mean better than M3?
Wick Smith
Wick Smith 7 oy oldin
The left and right mirror brackets are different lengths? I heard that.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
You’re welcome! I didn’t realize they’re narrower. I liked them better when I drove it. The rear mirror is pretty rough visibility wise though
Cédric Pomerleau
Cédric Pomerleau 7 oy oldin
I hope we can see the heat pump, the heated radar, the USB C ports and the wireless charger on the Model 3 soon. It should be pretty easy except for the heat pump.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah I hope it comes soon as well.
Santosh Nair
Santosh Nair 7 oy oldin
Homelink - sucks that it's not standard. very surprised why Tesla would hold back for $300 on a $60k+ car! I hope they realize the silliness and just throw it in instead of having to deal with all the customer appointments to install it. Track Mode - i think because its an SUV, they didn't put it in. Maybe they want model 3 to be their "track car", also with the Plaid trim coming out this year. PWS - I saw in another video that someone looked under the front and the speakers are there, so it's just a software update away. Auto Dim mirrors - disappointed about this. this isn't even fixable through a software update. This looks like a lost opportunity since they already produced a lot of Model Y's and would need to get everyone to come in and get the mirrors reinstalled. P.S - I've seen your journey from ordering the RWD, to the AWD, to the upgraded wheels, and the recent video about upgrading to Performance ..... you are definitely passionate about Tesla, and I hope you get your model Y soon after "the thing thats going on" gets back to normal :)
Santosh Nair
Santosh Nair 7 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw There you go!!! Looks like my comment was just on time. Congrats... wish you lots of fun making your next set of videos on the Y
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Haha thanks for keeping up on the journey! I agree with everything you said. Taking delivery of my AWD TOMORROW!
Max
Max 7 oy oldin
Oh and I’m kind of pissed about them dropping auto dimming side mirrors... it’s a very useful feature and standard on many cars nowadays
DarkWing494
DarkWing494 7 oy oldin
First world problems lol
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah it’s a weird omission
Max
Max 7 oy oldin
Great video ! I hope Model Y include resistance heating as an addition to the heat pump. It’s well below 0 degrees in Quebec and usually a heatpump is not enough. I guess we’ll find out next winter when I get mine :)
Steve Martin
Steve Martin 6 oy oldin
Elon has said it’s a remarkably well-engineered heat pump-a next-gen product that outperforms past efforts.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah, they have done testing in Canada in winter, so I hope it’s enough!
Tyran Mathurin
Tyran Mathurin 7 oy oldin
Tesla need to stop cutting corners.
Tyran Mathurin
Tyran Mathurin 7 oy oldin
@Matthew Boyd But Tesla choosing to deprive customers of features that it offered on previous models (especially when they're paying more for the newer one) isn't the way to go. And some of those are standard features that legacy automakers offered their customers for decades.
Matthew Boyd
Matthew Boyd 7 oy oldin
They are trying to cut costs to lower the price and make more and make every vehicle electric.
Faris Almahamid
Faris Almahamid 7 oy oldin
I’m saw one driving in Walnut Creek CA
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Awesome! You’ll see one in LA soon ;) (although one the pandemic passes)
kaiamoana
kaiamoana 7 oy oldin
I personally believe a PWS not being on it is a positive not a negative
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah
René Pouliot
René Pouliot 7 oy oldin
Thermo-pumps are quit popular in province with cheap electricity because they are 3 times more efficient then regular electrical heat. They work until about -25C
Nico Nico
Nico Nico 7 oy oldin
The efficiency depends on the difference of temperature between inside and outside. There is no way its 300% efficient at -25°C.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
That’s great to note
VampireOnline
VampireOnline 7 oy oldin
Wow! Radar heaters. Hadn't heard that yet. That's awesome.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Indeed!
Shi Cheng
Shi Cheng 7 oy oldin
Lack of Auto Dimming Mirrors just doesn’t make any sense. If Tesla does not put them back on, any way to do it in after market?
Shi Cheng
Shi Cheng 7 oy oldin
Kawa Lau Thanks Kawa, let’s wait and see if Tesla will bring it back later or we have to do it aftermarket
Kawa Lau
Kawa Lau 7 oy oldin
@Shi Cheng correct.
Shi Cheng
Shi Cheng 7 oy oldin
Kawa Lau so it is on the outside mirrors not auto dimming?
Kawa Lau
Kawa Lau 7 oy oldin
the inside mirror does auto dim, it's in the manual, and I looked at mine and can confirm.
Hashoshi
Hashoshi 7 oy oldin
Dimming mirrors are surely possible aftermarket
Andre Beard
Andre Beard 7 oy oldin
I would say that the Track Feature isn't a necessity since it's mainly made for daily driving. I think they didn't install auto-dimming because the rear glass is heavily tinted and since the distance from the rear to front dash is far, the driver won't be affected. I think from their data, they would have realized how many people actually have a garage or a remote garage, it wasn't a need back then so I guess, it saves them and the customer $300.00. To really grasp it all, these feature's are costly but not so much useful in the daily lives of an owner. The question I would like to know is if Self-Driving is better in the Model Y.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah I agree. And I doubt self driving will be better, aside from working in cold conditions better possibly since the sensors won’t be blocked. It’s the same platform and software as model 3, so whatever updates we get will be the same for both cars
Michael Griffin
Michael Griffin 7 oy oldin
Bought my model 3 on the 15th of this month it does not have exterior Auto dimming mirrors either
Michael Griffin
Michael Griffin 7 oy oldin
Inside yes. Outside no
David Polak
David Polak 7 oy oldin
Does it though have it on the interior mirror?
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Model 3 doesn’t anymore? Didn’t realize they removed it from there
Farhan Usmani
Farhan Usmani 7 oy oldin
Also one more interesting read Ryan insideevs.com/features/406683/tesla-model-y-design-flaw-hatchback/?fbclid=IwAR0pIJ3sawKsI26yY0iQ78A5PKl0hrjWRhV3IRTF7fTx-y_Mr71G0hjcnhY
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Thanks!
S Tyler
S Tyler 7 oy oldin
I’m a bit nervous of the glass roof. If your car is at work and a surprise hail storm passes over... How much is it to replace?
T1Oracle
T1Oracle 7 oy oldin
That's covered by insurance.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
That surprise hail storm could be expensive, but wouldn’t it be on a normal roof as well?
Spiro Mellis
Spiro Mellis 7 oy oldin
I hope this downtime will help improve their quality issues and paint problems
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah me too, although the cars shipping will have them
Anton Shelepov
Anton Shelepov 7 oy oldin
There is no dual zone ac for driver and front passenger. A deal breaker for me!!!
Kawa Lau
Kawa Lau 7 oy oldin
Most people say that is just a bug and should be able to fix with a software update. In the manual, it stated there is dual zone.
Jonathan Tuba 2
Jonathan Tuba 2 7 oy oldin
Anton Shelepov there is. You just go into heating menu to switch on
Farhan Usmani
Farhan Usmani 7 oy oldin
Ryan what do you say about air suspension coming to model Y I read this article electrek.co/2020/03/27/tesla-leaks-model-3-y-air-suspension-elon-says-no/
FC W.
FC W. 7 oy oldin
Not possible, unless Y pricing close to X
J.Phoenix Gaming
J.Phoenix Gaming 7 oy oldin
The Model Y DOES have a PWS but it hasn’t been activated.
Basil Eldho
Basil Eldho 7 oy oldin
@Ryan Shawuzpost.info/vision/video/hayvurmHap6HbZs.html
Kawa Lau
Kawa Lau 7 oy oldin
it has the speaker holes and wiring, but other youtuber had already looked from the inside the frunk, no speaker there.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Oh really? I’ll have to look underneath tomorrow...when I see one...that may or may not be mine 😬
Eric Johnson
Eric Johnson 7 oy oldin
The Y has off road mode.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
It does!
David R
David R 7 oy oldin
I prefer without the pedestrian warning system. One of the benefits of Tesla is the quietness.
d b
d b 7 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw and Cyclist
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah I agree, but it will make sense especially for kids and blind people
RVA
RVA 7 oy oldin
I cancelled my Y performance upon delivery because of the auto-dim side mirrors not being there along with no tow hitch/wiring. I can’t stand being blasted in my side mirrors at night.
Kawa Lau
Kawa Lau 7 oy oldin
yeah, no auto dim for side mirrors is a bummer, but at least the inside mirror has it and I think that's the more important one anyway. the the towing, according to this it might come later. www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-model-y-trailer-mode-for-future-update
Bob Elmer
Bob Elmer 7 oy oldin
Nicely done. The side camera information was new to me and I liked the thorough explanation of the charging ports.
RJ
RJ 7 oy oldin
Do you think the camera redesign is for glare or because the Y sits higher causing the camera needing to be at a different angle?
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Thanks! Glad to hear it was helpful :)
Charles
Charles 7 oy oldin
MY is also missing dual climate control. I thought you were the MY guy 🤣. I think some of these features will be added to M3 as a refresh.
Thomas Emmerich
Thomas Emmerich 7 oy oldin
Disappointed with the missing dual climate control. My wife and I are not climate compatible. But the owner's manual says there is dual climate control on page 127. I hope they can add it with a SW update " Touch an up or down arrow to change the cabin temperature. To apply a temperature setting to both the driver and passenger side, touch SYNC on the popup that appears when you touch an arrow. When you apply the same temperature to both sides, only one temperature setting displays. Touch SYNC again to display separate temperature settings for the driver and passenger."
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Haha I’ll get more details on everything to come!
Jonas Enebrand AB
Jonas Enebrand AB 7 oy oldin
Nice video! Heat pump makes more energy (2-400%) but is not that instant in heating
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Good to note
danny abe
danny abe 7 oy oldin
Great looking car, Cant wait to get one.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Me too!
nnystikai Gakushū
nnystikai Gakushū 7 oy oldin
No Auto dimming mirrors are a massive disappointment!
Charles
Charles 7 oy oldin
@nnystikai Gakushū Someone will probably offer an aftermarket version at some point.
nnystikai Gakushū
nnystikai Gakushū 7 oy oldin
CRAZEANATOR can it be added after market? If yes, it will be annoying to add after market after spending all that money on this car but...meh.
Charles
Charles 7 oy oldin
Only external mirrors are missing the auto-dim. The rear-view mirror has it. Still a bummer that the side mirrors are missing this feature though.
Peter
Peter 7 oy oldin
You never mentioned towing not available in the model Y?
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
That’s true, but that’s a little less hidden. I’ll have to do a complete comparison soon
Zahid Khakoo
Zahid Khakoo 7 oy oldin
In reading the owners manual it seems the inside rear view mirror is auto dimming while the exterior is not.
Charles
Charles 7 oy oldin
@Cédric Pomerleau I completely agree. Definitely a nice feature to have.
Cédric Pomerleau
Cédric Pomerleau 7 oy oldin
CRAZEANATOR But... but... that was the best feature in a long time. I’m always annoyed by the sun and the light of other cars in my back and I’m always forced to adjust them in weird position so I’m not blind. When I saw that feature on the M3 I was like, nice I really need that...
Charles
Charles 7 oy oldin
That is also true, Ryan. It's no longer on the M3. Either Tesla has a parts supply issue or it's being cut for cost reasons. My guess is on the latter.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah. Model 3 has had auto dimming up to this point but it appears that they removed them there too very recently
Cédric Pomerleau
Cédric Pomerleau 7 oy oldin
@Charles Thanks ! It's already dumb to remove that feature from the outside mirrors, at least it's still on the inside one.
Dan B
Dan B 7 oy oldin
8:55. Is this in Utah?
KC
KC 7 oy oldin
Dan at 2:55 Rick said in LA it works..., another note since I lived in NJ and now Maryland when the temperature hits 32 F (0 C) heat pump efficiency decreases big time. Our home’s heat pump has an Oil Back Up since the HP would run all the time. It would be interesting to see how the system performs next winter.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
I believe it’s northern CA, but not sure
Erwin Franz
Erwin Franz 7 oy oldin
Hi Ryan, I appreciate your approach very much. There is one thing you left out about the Y not having compared to the 3 that I thought you would mention (and I would use as confirmation), it appears the model 3 had dual climate control and the Y has single. Not sure if you’re aware of this. I personally don’t mind, I’ve had both on my Honda’s and single is good enough for me. I don’t mind Tesla optimizing costs, but it’s something to consider. Thanks for your work!
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Yeah, it mentions that it has it in the manual, so it may be a bug
drdsw
drdsw 7 oy oldin
Does anyone know if the Induction 20's are all weather tires? Don't know if we should get the 19 or 20. The midwest gets pretty snowy.
Kawa Lau
Kawa Lau 7 oy oldin
Yes, they are all weather. Love mine!
Adithya Chennamadhavuni
Adithya Chennamadhavuni 7 oy oldin
After thinking very hard I'm thinking about a used mode 6 from 2016 rather than y currently and wait till ct is released.
Adithya Chennamadhavuni
Adithya Chennamadhavuni 7 oy oldin
Ryan Shaw if you know anyone who brought a used tesla, filming the experience might be a good video and what to check.
Ryan Shaw
Ryan Shaw 7 oy oldin
Cybertruck should be great!
Kawa Lau
Kawa Lau 7 oy oldin
I just tested all the USB C ports, and they are all fast charging at over 3000 mA to my Pixel 4 XL.
360 grad
360 grad 7 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw also we're talking about two different things if it comes to usb ports. one thing is the power it delivers, which as far as i know is same on usb 2 and 3. the other thing is connection speed. as far as i know, the usb-c ports in the back of model y deliver only power, and the usb ports in the front deliver both, power and communication. usb 2 connection speed will do it's job for flash devices which you hook up to safe your camera footage from the car. and for your iphone you don't need an usb connection for communication but only for charging, since you hook up your phone with bluetooth.
360 grad
360 grad 7 oy oldin
@Hashoshi probably depends if it's a 2020 macbook or an older model. the 2020 model needs a 100w charger. oder models need a 60w charger. also you shouldn't charge at a lower rate. means don't charge with for example 45w.
360 grad
360 grad 7 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw the model y wireless charger is a 15w QI charger. that is fast and on the top end, because most current ones on the marked are 5 - 10w.
Kawa Lau
Kawa Lau 7 oy oldin
@Hashoshi no. It won't have enough for that. It wil charge it, but at your Mac charger will be faster
Kawa Lau
Kawa Lau 7 oy oldin
@Ryan Shaw yes, even the wireless I was fast charging. I was getting over 1800 to 2000 mA
dougdevine27
dougdevine27 7 oy oldin
9:54 Security risk? I think you mean safety risk. But it is funny to imagine a quiet Tesla threatening one's security.
d b
d b 7 oy oldin
@Wick Smith I guess it depends on conditions, however in my experience, Tesla are next level quiet compared to all other cars on the road
Wick Smith
Wick Smith 7 oy oldin
Should be ICE
Wick Smith
Wick Smith 7 oy oldin
d b I don’t disagree, so I would propose that all new cars produce some noise at low speeds if people believe that it helps. My only contention is that at very low speeds, such as you normally would encounter in a parking lot, I see cars and EV’s produce the identical sound.
d b
d b 7 oy oldin
@Wick Smith As a avid Cyclist, the audible tunes like Honda Clarity use are a welcome feature Perhaps Tesla will have options on tunes as well
Wick Smith
Wick Smith 7 oy oldin
When this pedestrian warning was first proposed, I made a point of listening to cars in the parking lot where I used to have breakfast. The only sound I heard was tire noise, since it was a flat surface and there was no need for anything but the slightest torque. At very low speeds the noise produced by both ICE cars and EV’s are essentially the same.
archie
archie 7 oy oldin
"Resistance Heating" has almost 100% conversion rate from electricity to heat. So it's theoretically close to max efficiency. However *Heat Pump* uses atmospheric heat, allowing it to break peak 100% efficiency limit- as its using the energy from outside the car.
D B
D B 5 oy oldin
@archie I agree
archie
archie 5 oy oldin
@D B As you said, magic of "Heat Pump" is that is > 100% efficient as it uses surrounding "heat" energy instead of just using "stored electricity" in the battery. And only make progress by making complex systems (like Heat Pump) super reliable and cheap to make. Just reusing "Resistance heater" would have been lazy!
D B
D B 5 oy oldin
@Janna Heat pump to cool the Batteries? WTF are talking about? Dude, you are so lost you can't be helped. Go away.
Janna
Janna 5 oy oldin
@D B So let me understand. The system that cools the cabin in a ev it's called air conditioner, the same system that cools the batteries in the ev it's called a heat pump but yet they are not the same thing?
D B
D B 5 oy oldin
@Janna That would only be strange for an idiot.
pxs231
pxs231 7 oy oldin
Resistive heating is 100% efficient while heat pumps are close to 300%. If heat pumps were 100% efficient they would be no better than resistive heating.
Dan Trewq
Dan Trewq 5 oy oldin
@Alex "Pwnt" Novosad can you explain what is the difference between heating and cooling aka heat pump vs ac? Thanks Alex
Dan Trewq
Dan Trewq 5 oy oldin
Can someone explain what is the difference between heating and cooling aka heat pump vs ac? Thanks
Janna
Janna 6 oy oldin
@Alex "Pwnt" Novosad what about the heat pump's efficiency when cooling?
Janna
Janna 6 oy oldin
@Everest Ezebuilo and the final point is?
Everest Ezebuilo
Everest Ezebuilo 6 oy oldin
@Alex "Pwnt" Novosad Basic law of physics or thermodynamics. You cannot have 100% conversion of energy. No matter how efficient, energy must be lost to the conversion process. For the heat pump in question here, there must be energy lost to the compressor itself. It looks like people are confusing heat with temperature. Heat is energy and can be compared with electrical energy input. You cannot give more than you've got and you cannot even give all you've got.
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